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Demuxing MKV to MPF: Quality Loss?

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If I demux an x264 encoded video file in the mkv container, to an h.264 file in the mp4 container, is there a loss in visual quality? Will the video bitrate stay the same? I know x264 is contantly being updated with new intelligent video compression algorithms, yet h.264 as far as i know isnt being updated regularly. so if i demux an x264 mkv to an h.264 mp4, surely I will see video artifacts that were not present in the x264 mkv, or the file size will increase to maintain such quality without artifacts?

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Message # 1 25.11.24 - 22:56:13
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(De/re)muxing = moving video/audio tracks to/from containers without actually touching them = no quality loss. h264 is a "language" for video compression. "x264" is the name of one of the programs that compress video into h264.

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Message # 2 25.11.24 - 23:04:11
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h264 (or avc or MPEG-4 part 10... they're all the same) is a video compression standard. x264 is an opensource implementation of that standard.

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Message # 3 25.11.24 - 23:15:50
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Ok thanks all, you've made it much clearer. cheers.

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Message # 4 25.11.24 - 23:25:44
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so AVC has unique concepts like weighted prediction. So if somebody wanted to add a new 'concept' for encoding, i.e ability to code straight(ish) edges as objects (pulling stuff out of my ass), this would require a completly new video compression 'language' or could you implement it into the current AVC language?

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Message # 5 25.11.24 - 23:29:50
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It depends on whether the output stream would look the same. In other words, something like a more efficient way of estimating motion should not change the output stream, since it's all done by the encoder, the encoder is just making different decisions. Something like a new way of ordering B-frames, though, (yes, I'm pulling things out of my a**) would not work since you need to maintain compliancy with the H.264 standard, you don't want to have to use a hacked decoder to make it work.

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Message # 6 25.11.24 - 23:41:04
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