what a load of carp, id still rather be in my 945. the renault spun round to face the opposite way whereas the Volvo didnt and the renault sits higher up than the Volvo as well so the bumper wouldnt hit the bumper of the Volvo, thats why it pushed the wing of the Volvo back so much. besides, which car will still be in 1 piece in 15 years time? (if they didnt smash them up) regards cavey